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only1billybonds 12:17 Sat Sep 23
Smoking to be banned.

Hot on the heels of the online safety bill, Sunak is considering bringing in a law that will make it illegal for anyone born after 2009 to buy tobaco products. This is nanny state on steroids, and must be opposed if and when a bill gets read. When i heard a couple of years ago that New Zealand were making this a law i really thought it couldnt happen here.

Besides, all it will do is create a massive black market and amber leaf will become the new weed.

I have'nt smoked for 6 years now but thats beside the point, and what will be next? Alcohol to be outlawed or at least limits put on how much you can buy. This is where we're heading, once we go cashless, the decision in what and how much you buy will no longer be yours to make.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/22/rishi-sunak-considers-banning-cigarettes-for-next-generation

dax47988 12:22 Sat Sep 23
Re: Smoking to be banned.

smoking is pretty disgusting and smokers generally have no idea how much they stink

there is no question that this filthy habit should be removed from society, tho a whacking great sledgehammer is probably not the best way

RBshorty 12:37 Sat Sep 23
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Never happen. Too much money is made from the Tax alone. Try plugging that hole.! Really worked well for the Yanks when they tried and ban the booze. It is PR stunt at best. Trying to sucker in a few voter’s.

Vexed 12:53 Sat Sep 23
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This could work, ban for non smokers now but the established smokers have to 3x their smoking intake to plug the tax hole. They'll die more quickly that way relieving the NHS burden which will eventually make up for the potential tax deficit of all those dead smokers no longer able to buy fags.

Solved.

Side of Ham 1:03 Sat Sep 23
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Anyone born after 2009 is looking to vape rather than smoke tobacco?

Pentonville 1:06 Sat Sep 23
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I smoked for 33 years. When I see it now, i just can't believe the pull it had on me. The very thought of puffing that smoke into my lungs etc and the cough and weezing stuns me..I just can't beleive I did it or enjoyed it but at the time I couldn't live without one..its mad.

RM10 1:07 Sat Sep 23
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Vaping chemicals will be the next cancer, when will they learn. Inhaling any smoke related product into your throat and lungs isn’t good.

Jim C 1:11 Sat Sep 23
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As RB pointed out, the money made on tax alone will likely prevent this actually happening.

IF they do ban it, all that will happen is it will be brought and sold elsewhere. People will still smoke and the already limited police numbers and funds will be wasted on chasing illegal tobacco sales.

Sydney_Iron 1:36 Sat Sep 23
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Fuck sake, im an ex-smoker and quit years ago now, it's been banned just about everywhere anyway, but let people at least make a personal choice if they smoke or not, fuck off with your ban.

But what's next, once they have smoking banned, then alcohol, fatty foods or sports that are deemed "dangerous" like Boxing? We already have some elites calling for bans to Boxing, higher taxation of fast food and booze etc.

UK, dogs etc

Iron Duke 1:41 Sat Sep 23
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Apart from the obvious issues of freedom of choice and age discrimination, this makes little sense.

It has become so expensive to smoke nowadays that most people have turned to vaping. In fact, the tobacco industry was dying on its arse and vaping and e-cigarettes have stepped into the void.

J.Riddle 2:14 Sat Sep 23
Re: Smoking to be banned.

I've seen ex smokers relatives who gave up too late slowly suffocating to death from Emphysema gasping for breathe with oxygen tank keeping them alive, others got lung cancer and succumbed. So I wouldn't be against it.

Then again I wouldn't be against a ban on alcohol in the longer term having seen other relatives die of ascites due to cirrhosis of the liver. Ted Fenton ex WHO poster RIP was a good man who succumbed.

I realise there would be objections to doing that, but alcohol is a toxic corrosive poison.

I speak as a moderate ex smoker and ex drinker who has been diagnosed with copd and has a disfunctional liver.

You are poisoning yourself taking both the above, either or both will kill you, just a matter of time depending to quantity taken and the cost to NHS is massive.

Gary Strodders shank 3:20 Sat Sep 23
Re: Smoking to be banned.

Fags, betting and no doubt booze will be on the hit list soon.

My old man and other family members died from emphysema / COPD and it was heartbreaking to watch them struggle to breath and in the case of my old man having a CPAP mask strapped to his face for 23 hours a day, however I would still be against any ban purely because I feel all out liberties are gradually being eroded and there is already all the information and warnings out there for people to make there own decisions.

Tax as already mentioned will be the reason it doesn't happen (yet)

Vexed 3:25 Sat Sep 23
Re: Smoking to be banned.

I had a relative who died in a skydiving accident, I think we should ban aeroplanes. And clouds. And pizza.

Mike Oxsaw 3:34 Sat Sep 23
Re: Smoking to be banned.

Here's a thought:

Why not extend the sale of diesel & petrol for a few more years and allow that once anticipated loss of fuel duty cover the loss in tobacco tax?

Vexed 3:37 Sat Sep 23
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Fuck, you're a dull cunt Oxsaw. I dont know how you manage such levels of consistency.

1964 3:43 Sat Sep 23
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Am I missing something here , if your born after 2009 the you are under 15. thought it was banned for them anyway.

Fauxstralian 4:24 Sat Sep 23
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Means those 15yo's & under would never be allowed to buy FAGS

Anyone who is puffing now can carry on into their early grave.

Hammer I am 5:05 Sat Sep 23
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So we're going to have a bizarre situation down the line where 70 years will loitering outside the newsagents asking passing 71 year olds to buy fags for them!

Mike Oxsaw 5:07 Sat Sep 23
Re: Smoking to be banned.

Who's the duller, the dullard or the one who finds the dullard interesting enough to make time to respond to?

nychammer 5:28 Sat Sep 23
Re: Smoking to be banned.

How do you decry smoking tobacco and celebrate smoking weed in the same breath? That's exactly what is happening here. Cannabis product 'stores' are like corner shops here now and they cant open more fast enough. Both are filthy habits when smoked and Cue a massive mental and physical health epidemic in a few years that nobody saw coming.

Its personal responsibility. ban smoking both in public and make consumers of them pay more in taxes and healthcare / insurance costs.

bruuuno 5:43 Sat Sep 23
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I was just about to post similar nyc - the logic of legalising weed and making tobacco illegal is mad.

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